On March 7, 2014 I had posted a video teaching done by Ray Comfort titled ‘True and False Conversion’ which can be seen here. When I first watched it I found some of it quite insightful. But for many days after watching the video I was pondering some of the things he said in the teaching that just didn’t feel right in my spirit. After I had read 2 articles on Lighthouse Trails blog written by Roger Oakland I realized what the problem was that was unsettling my spirit. This teaching by Ray Comfort IMO comes from a calvinist perspective. From Ray’s perspective those who fall away are ‘false converts” and that they ‘were never saved to begin with’. As a result of discussions I have had with calvinists or in reading some of their points of view in articles and on blogs it is believed that “once saved always saved” and if someone falls away they “were never saved to begin with”. The belief is that professing christians cannot fall away because if they do they must have been “a false convert” therefore they ‘were never saved to begin with’. So in that respect I do not agree with his view on this. I do believe that there are false converts, meaning people who never got saved to begin with, who actually just had a religious spirit feigning outwardly what it looks like to be a born again christian but actually not possessing eternal life. But I don’t believe that every person who has fallen away from the faith was just a false convert (a person who was never saved to begin with). The bible is clear that believers can be deceived unto apostasy. Apostasy has to do with a person who once believed but then turned completely away from what they once believed to be true but were deceived by error and false teachings that depict a counterfeit Jesus. The apostle Paul warned the Corinthians of being dazzled and charmed by ministers of satan the transformed into ministers of Christ who present another gospel, another Jesus, and end up receiving a different spirit (2 Cor 11). The scriptures do not call the people in the parable of the sower who fell away ‘false converts’. Jesus was giving us descriptions of the different conditions of a persons heart and how as a result it affects their walk with God and His word…
Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Fall away strongs greek #G868 aphistēmi
To make stand off, cause to withdraw, to remove
to excite to revolt
to stand off, to stand aloof
to go away, to depart from anyone
to desert, withdraw from one
to fall away, become faithless
to shun, flee from
to cease to vex one
to withdraw one’s self from, to fall away
to keep one’s self from, absent one’s self from
These are those who believed the truth of the gospel when they heard it received it with joy. The only problem is they didn’t get grounded in the word of God (and these have no root) in order to endure in the word through temptation. If you don’t let the word abide in your heart how can it take root?If you don’t obey the word of God how can it take root or produce fruit? The apostle James (James 1:14) said that EVERY man (that includes professing christians) is tempted WHEN he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed. James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
2 Peter 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE LEST YE ALSO, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, FALL FROM YOUR OWN STEDFASTNESS.
2Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Falling away – strongs greek G646 apostasia – a falling away, defection, apostasy
G646 Apostasia from the root word apostasion G647 – 1. divorce, repudiation 2. a bill of divorce
From Truth to Strong Delusion by Roger Oakland
Can Christians be Spiritually deceived and How can they avoid it? by Roger Oakland
The Parable of the Sower
1 And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word’s sake, immediately they are offended.
18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
21 And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?
22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
Please see the following post
Ray Comfort makes a plea for professing christians to think very carefully about who you give your money to in going to movies to help support those who profane the name of our God…How today the church is losing it’s savor because of not standing for righteousness…He also talked about how we have false converts among us in the church who use all the christian cliches and lingo but their hearts are far from God…He is completely right! I encourage you to listen in to this broadcast and let the word of God that he preaches touch your heart!
Matt 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Col 4:5 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
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A very good informative video presentation about the damage of Genetically Modified foods and Round up pesticides by Jeffrey M. Smith.
Jeffrey M. Smith’s website
Website for information on healthier eating (non-GMO’s)
Also there are apps to help you with grocery shopping to purchase foods from companies that are NON GMO
AMEN!!!!! We must continue to contend against false teachings for the sake of the souls of all who are being deceived and coming under a strong delusion to continue to perpetuate it!
Very sound teaching from brother Guy Duininck of Master’s Touch Ministries in Tulsa, Ok.
— Perverted Doctrine —
From True or False – Judging Doctrine and Leadership
Perverted doctrine is unsound teaching which results when individuals transform a truth from the Word of God into something completely different than what it wasintended to mean. The word “perverted” used in the New Testament most often means, “to change something into it’s opposite.” In the book of Acts, this word is used of the sun being turned to darkness [Acts 2:20]. James used this word to describe laughter being turned into mourning [James 4:9]. When a teaching is perverted, it is usually changed into the opposite of what it was intended to mean.
Paul used the word “perverted” to describe the unsound teaching of false ministers who were negatively influencing the churches of Galatia. He wrote,
“…there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.” Galatians 1:7-8
Paul constantly dealt with false ministers who perverted the truth in order to gain control in local churches. One perversion of truth he addressed in the churches of Galatia was the issue of Christian liberty. He wrote,
“…brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh…” Galatians 5:13
Why did Paul have to warn these believers not to use their liberty in Christ as an opportunity to sin? Because there were those who perverted the doctrine of liberty, using it as an excuse to indulge the passions of the flesh. What was meant to be a wonderful truth about liberty in Christ was perverted into a license to sin.
In his letter to the church at Rome, Paul instructed believers about the grace of God. He taught them the New Covenant truth that because they were under grace, they were free from the law. He warned them, however, not to use this truth of grace as a license to sin, but to be self disciplined by reckoning themselves dead to sin and alive to God [Romans 6:1-23].
The true doctrine of grace can be easily perverted into a license to sin. In face, Jude wrote of false teachers who were perverting this very doctrine. He said they were, “ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness” [Jude 4]. These ungodly men, posing as ministers, perverted the revelation of God’s grace through Christ.
When perverted, the truth about God’s grace was no longer a reason for rejoicing and a motivation to please God by living righteously, but became a teaching that authorized believers to exercise lust through excess and indecency.
Is perverted doctrine dangerous? Notice what Paul said concerning those who perverted the gospel he preached,
“…some…pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:7-8
To “be accursed” meant to be “damned to hell.” Those who pervert the truth may be in danger of damnation! God does not like perverted doctrine or those who teach it! The results are too debilitating for the church!
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We have books being sold in christian book stores by authors claiming to be christians that are into new age philosophies and spirituality. We have pastors and ministers that are compromising the word of God for the new popular thing without examining the information against the word of God or trying the spirits working through the popular book authors, popular ministries teachings, and movements. Another book that is gaining popular momentum among professing christians is the book “Jesus Calling” by author Sarah Young. If other brethren are telling you how ‘great’ this book is and trying to pressure you to read it I suggest you listen in to this audio broadcast with Warren B. Smith who is an EX-level 5 new ager who has repented of following this false christ to turn to the true Son of God Jesus Christ. Warren Smith explains how this author, Sarah Young, came to be a ‘christian’. Apparently she never came to salvation through the hearing of the gospel but through a ‘presence’ she felt and believed she was converted. He says she was also inspired by a new age book and in the book she teaches panentheism (that God is in everyone and in everything). Do you know the difference between the antichrist spirit posing as Jesus Christ and the true resurrected savior of the world sent from the Father Jesus Christ?
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
New Age, get ready for what’s coming with Warren B. Smith
Warren B. Smith on Frances and Friends tv broadcast.
Please watch the video below. It is such a blessing. Wonderful inspiring and edifying message from this blessed woman of God. She asks the question ‘What happened to the church?’. Inspect the fruit of preachers! It is not evil to be a fruit inspector…Stop letting satan tell you it is evil and not the love of God…It absolutely is the love of God!!! Jesus paid a price to set us free from the shackles of sin, satan, and the world…We ought to fight for it instead of accept religion handed to us as ‘God’ or “Jesus” or occult spirits as ‘the Holy Spirit’…You want to be sanctified then study to show yourselves approved unto God a workman that need not be ashamed rightly dividing THE WORD OF TRUTH! It won’t come through doctrines of devils, vain philosophies, traditions of men, and the rudiments of the world and anything that is not of Christ…Paul said that he knew nothing among them except Christ and Him crucified…Paul counted all the things he had accomplished in life before Christ as dung that he may win Christ…
Philippians 3:1Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ray Comfort of Living Waters ministry has put together a very well thought out mini movie showing us from the ‘experts’ own mouths that evolution is a belief and those who believe it have put blind faith into something that there is no OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE that Darwinian Evolution is true based on one of Evolutions notions of the change of kinds. This is where one species eventually evolves into another completely different species. Richard Dawkins an atheist who wrote ‘The God Delusions’ said, “Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.” ~ But I say Evolution is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence…