Berean Call 2014 Conference

Berean Call is having a conference that is being Livestreamed for free with guest speakers like Ray Yungen and Warren Smith. It has started already this morning and will continue through August 31. Here is the link the Livestream Conference. Just click on the block with the current speaker in the list. Right now Warren Smith is speaking on “Another Jesus Calling”.

http://new.livestream.com/bereancallconference

 

If you would like to listen to Ray Yungen who spoke this morning the link to his teaching on Livestream is here

http://new.livestream.com/bereancallconference/events/3276824

 

Here is the direct link to Warren Smith’s Livestream broadcast

http://new.livestream.com/bereancallconference/events/3276850

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New Age Spirituality infiltrating Christianity

Is this the Jesus of the bible or another Jesus as the apostle Paul warned the christian brethren of Corinthians about being deceived by through false ministers and their false gospel receiving a different spirit (2 Cor 11:4)

 

We have books being sold in christian book stores by authors claiming to be christians that are into new age philosophies and spirituality. We have pastors and ministers that are compromising the word of God for the new popular thing without examining the information against the word of God or trying the spirits working through the popular book authors, popular ministries teachings, and movements. Another book that is gaining popular momentum among professing christians is the book “Jesus Calling” by author Sarah Young. If other brethren are telling you how ‘great’ this book is and trying to pressure you to read it I suggest you listen in to this audio broadcast with Warren B. Smith who is an EX-level 5 new ager who has repented of following this false christ to turn to the true Son of God Jesus Christ.  Warren Smith explains how this author, Sarah Young, came to be a ‘christian’. Apparently she never came to salvation through the hearing of the gospel but through a ‘presence’ she felt and believed she was converted. He says she was also inspired by a new age book and in the book she teaches panentheism (that God is in everyone and in everything). Do you know the difference between the antichrist spirit posing as Jesus Christ and the true resurrected savior of the world sent from the Father Jesus Christ?
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

New Age, get ready for what’s coming with Warren B. Smith

Warren B. Smith on Frances and Friends tv broadcast.

The Trojan Church

Dr. Stan Monteith interviews Gregory Reid on his book “Trojan Church: New Age Corruption of the Evangelical Faith”. Discussion on the leaven of new age influences being christianized in order to use them to expand the kingdom of wolves in sheeps clothing in the name of reaching more people for Jesus.  Heretical movements like the Emerging Church with heretical leaders like Brian McClaren and Rick Warren who are making millions of dollars for bringing in destructive and damnable heries as if they are biblical.

Here is the link to hear the audio program dated 11/19/08  titled Gregory Reid : Trojan Church. Hour: a-1hr.

http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/

Also I am adding the website link to Gregory Reid’s website http://www.gregoryreid.com/index.htm

Contemplative Prayer vs Biblical Prayer

Found this on a website when doing a search on contemplative prayer and biblical prayer…I highly suggest reading this to get more of an understanding between the differences of true biblical prayer and what is being passed off today in the church called “contemplative prayer”…

Contemplative Prayer vs Biblical Prayer by Christian A. Narloch

http://www.earnestlycontend.com/cp.html

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The institutional church is being deceived by ministers that call themselves christians, who are also deceived by the devil, and have introduced damnable heresies as if they are biblical and acceptable teachings…Wikipedia says this about Centering Prayer (aka, Contemplative Prayer).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centering_Prayer

“Contemplative prayer is a popular method of contemplative prayer, placing a strong emphasis on interior silence.

Though most authors trace its roots to the contemplative prayer of the Desert Fathers of early Christian monasticism, to the Lectio Divina tradition of Benedictine monasticism, and to works like The Cloud of Unknowing and the writings of St. Teresa of Avila and St. John of the Cross, its origins as part of the “Centering Prayer” movement in modern Catholicism and Christianity can be traced to several books published by three Trappist monks of St. Joseph’s Abbey in Spencer, Massachusetts in the 1970s: Fr. William Meninger, Fr. M. Basil Pennington and Abbot Thomas Keating.[1]

History

Aside from this anonymous author, seeds of what would become known as contemplation were sown early in the Christian era. The first appearance of something approximating contemplative prayer arises in the 4th century writings of the monk St. John Cassian, who wrote of a practice he learned from the Desert Fathers (specifically from Isaac). Cassian’s writings remained influential until the medieval era, when monastic practice shifted from a mystical orientation to Scholasticism. Thus it can be plausibly argued that contemplation was (one of) the earliest meditational and/or devotional practice of Christian monasticism, being later supplanted in dominance by the scholastic theologians, with only a minimal interest in contemplation.

The Trappist monk and influential writer Thomas Merton was strongly influenced by Buddhist meditation, particularly as found in Zen – he was a lifetime friend of Buddhist meditation master and Vietnamese monk and peace activist Thich Nhat Hanh, and was also an acquaintance of the current Dalai Lama. His theology attempted to unify existentialism with the tenets of the Roman Catholic faith, a unique undertaking – Christian existentialism is usually regarded as a feature of Protestant theology. As such he was also an advocate of the non-rational meditation of contemplative prayer, which he saw as a direct confrontation of finite and irrational man with his ground of being.

Practice

The actual practice of centering prayer is not entirely alien, at least to Catholics, who are advised to meditate in some form daily – usually on the rosary or on the more structured practice of lectio divina. It is essentially identical to the practice of hesychasm as understood in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Note: While there is a similarity in praxis, i.e., short repetitive prayers, and underlying theology, apophatic theology via negativa, to describe centering prayer as almost identical to hesychasm is somewhat inaccurate. The purpose of centering prayer is to clear the mind of rational thought in order to focus on the indwelling presence of God, whereas hesychasm seeks to descend with the mind into the heart to “see” the energies of God which appear as “uncreated light”.

Basil Pennington, one of the best known proponents of the centering prayer technique, has delineated the guidelines for centering prayer:[2]

1. Sit comfortably with your eyes closed, relax, and quiet yourself. Be in love and faith to God.
2. Choose a sacred word that best supports your sincere intention to be in the Lord’s presence and open to His divine action within you (i.e. “Jesus”, “Lord,” “God,” “Savior,” “Abba,” “Divine,” “Shalom,” “Spirit,” “Love,” etc.).
3. Let that word be gently present as your symbol of your sincere intention to be in the Lord’s presence and open to His divine action within you.
4. Whenever you become aware of anything (thoughts, feelings, perceptions, images, associations, etc.), simply return to your sacred word, your anchor.

Ideally, the prayer will reach the point where the person is not engaged in their thoughts as they arrive on their stream of consciousness. This is the “unknowing” referenced in the 14th century book.

One of the references used in wikipedia for this was “Thomas Merton: Zen and the Birds of Appetite.”

Thomas Merton was a Monk that was influenced by Buddism who also practiced contemplative prayer…John Crowder follows this mystical new age monk, Thomas Merton, teachings on contemplative prayer. He also follows teachings from spanish mystic St. John of the Cross and Catholic mystic Madame Guyon. Here is a quote from Wikipedia about St. John the Cross:

Saint John of the Cross (San Juan de la Cruz) (24 June 1542 – 14 December 1591), born Juan de Yepes Alvarez, was a major figure of the Counter-Reformation, a Spanish mystic, and Carmelite friar and priest, born at Fontiveros, a small village near Ávila.

Saint John of the Cross was a reformer of the Carmelite Order and is considered, along with Saint Teresa of Ávila, as a founder of the Discalced Carmelites. He is also known for his writings. Both his poetry and his studies on the growth of the soul are considered the summit of mystical Spanish literature and one of the peaks of all Spanish literature. He was canonized as a saint in 1762 by Pope Benedict XIII. He is one of the thirty-three Doctors of the Church. When his feast day was inserted into the General Roman Calendar in 1738, it was assigned at first to 24 November, since his date of death was impeded by the then existing octave of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. This obstacle was removed in 1955 and in 1969 his feast day was moved to his date of death, 14 December.

Thomas Merton called John of the Cross the greatest of all mystical theologians.

The Carmelite Order: The Order of the Brothers of Our Lady of Mount Carmel or Carmelites (sometimes simply Carmel by synecdoche; Latin: Ordo fratrum Beatæ Virginis Mariæ de monte Carmelo) is a Roman Catholic religious order founded in the 12th century on Mount Carmel, whence the order receives its name. Saint Bertold has traditionally been associated with the founding of the order, but few clear records of early Carmelite history have survived and this is likely to be a later invention by hagiographers

The charism, or spiritual focus, of the Carmelite Order is contemplative prayer. The Order is considered by the Church to be under the special protection of the Blessed Virgin Mary and thus has a strong Marian devotion. As in most of the orders dating to medieval times, the First Order is the friars (who are active/contemplative), the Second Order is the nuns (who are cloistered) and the Third Order consists of laypeople who continue to live in the world, and can be married, but participate in the charism of the order by liturgical prayers, apostolates (ministries), and contemplative prayer. There are also offshoots such as active Carmelite sisters.

A website says about Madame Guyon http://logosresourcepages.org/Believers/guyon.htm

The writings of Madame Guyon (1648-1717) are very popular today in evangelical, charismatic, and ecumenical circles. Guyon was a Roman Catholic who had visions and other mystical experiences and wrote about them in her published works.

Guyon claimed that she went through a series of spiritual states through her mystical experiences. The first, which she called “union of the powers,” lasted eight years. During this time, she felt drawn to God alone and drawn away from people. The second state, which she called “mystical death,” lasted seven years, during which she had a feeling of detachment from God and was plagued with deep mental depression and thoughts of hell and judgment. She frequently had dark, weird dreams, which she considered a form of revelation. In the third state, which she called “the apostolic state,” she claimed that she was absorbed into and united with God. During this time, she preached, but she did not preach the gospel; she preached mystical experiences.

As she fasted to the extreme and often went without sleep, her mystical experiences increased. She experienced what she thought was union with the essence of God. She had mental delusions or demonic visitations such as envisioning “horrible faces in blueish light.” She went into trances, which would leave her unable to speak for days. During some trances, she wrote things that she believed were inspired (Guyon, An Autobiography, p. 321-324). She claimed that she and La Combe could communicate with one another for hours without speaking verbally. She believed she could speak in the language of angels.

In 1688, Madame Guyon was arrested on heresy charges and imprisoned in a convent for several months

THE ERRORS OF MADAME GUYON

There are some correct and helpful insights in Madame Guyon’s writings, but taken as a whole they are unscriptural and dangerous. Following are some of the errors:

1. SHE EMPHASIZED THE SURRENDER OF HERSELF TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITHOUT RESERVATION.

Madam Guyon spoke of her goal as “perfect obedience to the will of the Lord, submission to the church” (Guyon, Autobiography). She was referring, of course, to the Catholic Church.

2. SHE FOCUSED ON HAVING AN EXPERIENCE OF GOD RATHER THAN KNOWING HIM BY FAITH THROUGH THE BIBLE.

This is the essence of mysticism. To the contrary, though, the Lord Jesus exalted faith over sight and experience (Jn. 20:29). Paul said “we walk by faith not by sight” (2 Cor. 5:7). And faith only comes from the Word of God (Rom. 10:17). It does not come from within or from experiences. Madame Guyon was not Bible centered in her Christian walk, and that is a grave and fatal error.

3. SHE WARNED AGAINST “CRITICAL” EXAMINATION OF SPIRITUAL THINGS.

In the introduction to her book on prayer, Madame Guyon says, “Beloved reader, read this little book with a sincere and honest spirit. Read it in lowliness of mind WITHOUT THE INCLINATION TO CRITICIZE. If you do, you will not fail to reap profit from it.”

That is extremely dangerous and unscriptural. Everything is to be proven by the Bible (Isaiah 8:20; Acts 17:21; 1 Thess. 5:21; 1 John 4:1). If we do not test everything carefully by the Word of God, we are open to spiritual deception (2 Cor. 12:1-4). Jesus warned that we must not allow anyone to deceive us (Matt. 24:4).

4. SHE EMPLOYED PAGAN METHODS OF EMPTYING THE MIND IN MEDITATION AND PRAYER.

Note the following quote from Madame Guyon:

“May I hasten to say that the kind of prayer I am speaking of is not a prayer that comes from your mind. It is a prayer that begins in the heart . . . . Prayer offer to the Lord from your mind simply would not be adequate. Why? Because your mind is very limited. The mind can pay attention to only one thing at a time. Prayer that comes out of the heart is not interrupted by thinking” (Guyon, Experiencing the Depths of Jesus Christ).

One of the types of prayer taught by Madame Guyon was a form of meditation whereby the soul is emptied of all self-desire and interest and passively awaits possession by God. This is exactly like Hinduism.

Contrast 1 Peter 5:8, which says the believer is to be sober and vigilant, continually alert for spiritual danger. The Bible does not say the mind is not to be employed in prayer. To the contrary, the believer is to gird up the mind (1 Pet. 1:13). We are to watch in prayer (Col. 4:2). That describes a use of the mind. We are to love the Lord with all our hearts AND all our minds (Lk. 10:27). The Bible does not play the heart against the mind as Madame Guyon did. In fact, the two are often used synonymously in scripture.

5. SHE LOOKED FOR GOD WITHIN HERSELF, RATHER THAN WITHOUT.

In her book on prayer, Madame Guyon says, “God is, indeed found with facility, when we seek Him within ourselves.” In her autobiography, Guyon says that when she was 19 years old, a Catholic Franciscan monk told her, “It is, madame, because you seek without what you have within. Accustom yourself to seek God in your heart, and you will there find Him.” She was a Roman Catholic and she did not confess to a scriptural salvation experience. Instead, she started from that point forward looking within herself for God and truth. She prayed, “O my Lord, Thou wast in my heart, and demanded only a simple turning of my mind inward, to make me perceive Thy presence. Oh, Infinite Goodness! how was I running hither and thither to seek Thee, my life was a burden to me, although my happiness was within myself. … Alas! I sought Thee where Thou wert not, and did not seek Thee where thou wert. It was for want of understanding these words of Thy Gospel, ‘The kingdom of God cometh not with observation . . . The kingdom of God is within you.’”

Madame Guyon often misused Scripture, and she did so in this case with Luke 17:21. Jesus was addressing the unsaved Pharisees, and He certainly was not saying that the kingdom of God was inside of them. He was saying, rather, that the kingdom of God was right there in the midst of them, because He, the King, was there presenting Himself as the Messiah and working miracles.

Jesus taught us to pray to God in Heaven, not to God inside of us (Matt. 6:9).

6. SHE BELIEVED IN SINLESS PERFECTION.

Madame Guyon believed that her mystical experiences would “devour all that was left of self” and that she would be rid of “troublesome faults” (Guyon, p. 73).

To the contrary, the great apostle Paul, who called himself “the chief of sinners,” testified that in himself “dwelleth no good thing” (Rom. 7:18). We are taught in Scripture that the sin nature is not removed after salvation (1 John 1:8-10), and if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves.

7. SHE BELIEVED SHE COULD ACHIEVE A COMPLETE UNION WITH GOD, AN ABSORPTION INTO GOD.

Madame Guyon said: “So was my soul lost in God, who communicated to it His qualities, having drawn out of it all that it had of its own.” She spoke of being plunged “wholly into God’s own divine essence” (Guyon, p. 239).

This is a pagan concept that has no basis in Scripture. The believer is a child of God, but he is not absorbed into God and does note partake of his divine essence. Only Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, can say that He is one with and of the same essence with God. Christ alone dwells in the light “which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see” (1 Tim. 6:15). In Revelation 22:3, in the New Heaven and New Earth, the Bible says that God is still God and “his servants shall serve him.” God is God, and though the believer is His child through Christ, he is not God and never will be. When 1 Peter 1:4 speaks of being a “partaker of the divine nature,” it refers to partaking of God’s moral qualities, which is what the Bible means when it speaks of man as made in the image of God. Adam was made in God’s image morally, as an upright being in whom was no sin. 1 Peter 1:4 refers to the same thing as Ephesians 4:24, “put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness” and Colossians 3:10, “put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him.”

8. SHE SPENT HER LIFE LOOKING WITHIN HERSELF AND SEEKING MYSTICAL EXPERIENCES RATHER THAN OBEYING THE GREAT COMMISSION OF JESUS CHRIST.

Madame Guyon thought she was caught up with God, but really, she was caught up with herself. She consumed her life largely upon her own personal religious devotions. She did not know the true Gospel of Jesus Christ for herself nor did she carry it to others. Though she spoke of the grace of Christ, it was intermingled with Catholic sacramental heresy.

This has been one of the great errors of Christian mysticism and monasticism from the second century until now. God has not called the believer to remove to a remote cave or mountain top hideout or solitary cell, or to sit around looking inside of himself for God, or seeking to put oneself into a mindless, passive meditative state, or to be caught up in visions and trances. The Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles did nothing like this. Their prayer and meditation was much more practical than that. Christ has commanded His churches to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15).

You can read more in Wikipedia about Christian Mysticism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism

One person leaves a comment on Amazon about John Crowders book”Miracle Workers, Reformers, and the New Mystics”:

While the book is full of interesting accounts from both the life and ministry of Crowder and his New Mystics and many others, the book is lacking in biblical exegesis. Crowder rarely interacts with Scripture unless it is to back up a point or an experience. In fact, Crowder seems to me to argue against deep personal study of the Bible in favour of a mystical communion with God. For instance, when Crowder writes on prayer he teaches from the new age Thomas Merton and contemplative prayer. Crowder believes that the mystic Merton and others found a powerful tool for true praying in contemplative prayer that the Church has lost. Crowder never examines the Bible for contemplative prayer but simply favours it because of its mystical roots and where it leads. He even favours out-of-body experiences from contemplative prayer.

I can not recommend this book. It is simply not biblical. It is not biblical both because of what it teaches and the fact that Crowder does not truly dive into the Bible. I am all for what the Puritans called, “experiential Christianity” but not wild mysticism without a solid biblical foundation. There are better books on prayer (E.M. Bounds, Samuel Chadwick, John Wesley, Andrew Murray), on devotion (Leonard Ravenhill, Oswald Chambers, Charles Spurgeon, John MacArthur, John Piper), and on experiencs based on the authority of the Bible (Ray Comfort, Anthony Palma, French Arrington, Douglas Jacoby) that are out there.

People who want to abide in the word of God are being labeled today as “religious” and “pharisee” just because they try to point out the heretical teachings of ministers today who are deceived and deceiving others leading them to a new age christ.

Psalms 2:1-3

Ps 2:1 Why are the nations in an uproar And the peoples devising a vain thing?
Ps 2:2 The kings of the earth take their stand And the rulers take counsel together Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,
Ps 2:3 “Let us tear their fetters apart And cast away their cords from us!”

In reality when people like Todd Bentley, God TV, John Crowder, etc call those who are seeing a need to get back to the the truth of God’s word as “religious”, “pharisees”, “heresy hunters”, etc. they are actually saying “Let us tear their fetters apart and cast away their cords from us!” The amplified says this…

Amp Ps 2:3 Let us break Their bands [of restraint] asunder and cast Their cords [of control] from us.

Because the word of God brings restraint sin and the fleshly desires.

1 John 3:4 Everyone who commits (practices) sin is guilty of lawlessness; for [that is what] sin is, lawlessness (the breaking, violating of God’s law by transgression or neglect–being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will).
The apostle Paul said this to the church of Corinth…

2 Cor 6:11 Our mouth has spoken freely to you, O Corinthians, our heart is opened wide.
2 Cor 6:12 You are not restrained by us, but you are restrained in your own affections.
2 Cor 6:13 Now in a like exchange–I speak as to children–open wide {to us} also.
2 Cor 6:14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
2 Cor 6:15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
2 Cor 6:16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
2 Cor 6:17 “Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,” says the Lord. “AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you.
2 Cor 6:18 “And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,” Says the Lord Almighty.
2 Cor 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
2 Cor 7:2 Make room for us {in your hearts; we wronged no one, we corrupted no one, we took advantage of no one.

They are restrained from obeying the word of God because of fleshly affections that are done under the excess of “ecstasy/ecstatic”…these new age practices and spiritual experiences go beyond the scriptures of what Jesus and the apostles taught…it is making provision for the flesh under the deception called Ecstasy and Contemplative prayer…The bible calls this lawlessness…(1John 3:4b) being unrestrained and unregulated by His commands and His will). Tell me how is sticking to the scriptures religious? Not following the scriptures IMO is what is religious…just creating a “new” religion to give more freedom to the carnal nature to do as it wants and putting Jesus name on it. This is ANTICHRIST…Notice that even the name ANTIChrist also has Christs name in it also…Its a counterfeit christ, an imitation, fake, a facsimile of the true, a cheap carbon copy…Jesus said if any man wants to be His disciple they must DENY HIMSELF pick up their cross and follow Him…The apostle Peter said we should obey God rather than men…the apostle Paul said ‘follow me AS I FOLLOW THE LORD’…if Paul is not following the Lord in an area then we ought not to follow him in that…Paul praised the Bereans when they went to check out the things he was telling them against the scriptures…but people like God TV, Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, John Crowder, etc call those of us who will check out what they say against scripture and find what they say is not in line with what the bible teaches as “religious”, “pharisees”, “heresy hunters”, “wolves”, etc….they judge themselves when they make such accusations against the truth for the purpose of turning believers away from the Christ by hurling false accusations at His anointed brethren who boldly speak the truth…God have mercy on them for so doing…

New Mystics~The New Breed

 

TODD BENTLEY’S PASTOR Patricia King

– New Mystics ~ The New Breed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyW3GlgpN58

 

PATRICIA KING – New Mystics ~ The New Breed ~ (The Word Mystic means: Shaman, sage, medium spiritualist, magic, paranormal), mystical presence of their god.

Ps 82:1

“God standeth in the assembly of God.” God is among his people; and he presides especially in those courts of justice which himself has established. The Court of King’s Bench is properly the place where the king presides, and where he is supposed to be always present.

Beware what you do! God is in his court, and in the midst (of the assembly) God will judge!

Patricia King endorses a Kundalini Trance dancing called Ekstasis Worship

  

Here we go again. Just when we couldn’t think things could get worse since the kundalini revival in Lakeland from guru Todd Bentley now we have being introduced to the body of Christ Kundalini dance. Yes you heard that right Kundalini dance. Patricia King is promoting a new “christian club” called “Club Mysterio” as well as endorsing DJ Caleb who instructs believers into “Ecstasis Worship”…What is Ecstasis Worship? Well basically it is pagan worship and dance. Here is what Patricia King says about Ekstasis Worship:
quote found at this link http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=3B007E22&GroupID=CB0075KHave you ever heard of “Ekstasis Worship”? Many believers are discovering it, and one of the members of our itinerant ministry team, Caleb Brundidge, is bringing it to the Body of Christ.
  

In this video, Caleb and Patricia King share on “Ekstasis,” and how you can go beyond regular worship and enter into a place of body, soul and spirit where you feel freedom to dance and celebrate your love for Jesus Christ with an all new abandoned level of expression and experience.

Video can be seen at link below

http://www.extremeprophetic.com/videoplay.php?id=http://www.propheticmedia.com/video/video_email_media/2008/1_23_08_Weblist_CalebBrundidge_ClubMysterioHIGH.mp4

Here is another link where GodTube is also promoting DJCaleb and Club Mysterio with Ekstasis Worship…

You can also read another christian blogger, Sola Dei Gloria, point of view about this new form of “worship” here http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/paganism-ekstasis-worship/

Also you can listen to an audio interview from Slice of Laodecia’s “Slice Cast” with Ingrid Schlueter and Discernment Ministries Jewel Grewe. There are audio clips from DJ Caleb about the ideology that is behind Club Mysterio and Ekstasis Worship and why it is pagan. They are also discussing the New Apostolic Reformation deceptions.
You can catch that audio here http://sliceoflaodicea.com/slicecast/

I also want to encourage you to check out Discernment Ministries website http://www.discernment-ministries.org/
They have a book available online called “Strange Fire: The Rise of Gnosticism in the Church”. You can see that here

And I want to also add Deception Bytes article on Patricia King Encouraging demonic trance dancing called Ekstatis Worship here

You can compare this christianized version of pagan practice of Ekstasis and what is being passed off as “Worship” with the pagans
Kundalini Dance of Ekstasis Trances here…

I found a youtube video of a youtuber named mysticalerotica under the influence of Kundalini Yoga who calls this Kundalini/Chi pagan spirit, to an awakening of the “gods” within, the Holy Spirit…
Sounds much like what Todd Bentley, Patricia King, DJ Caleb and others like them speak in like manner…This video will have some demonic influences
so take caution to watching and listening to it…Here is this persons YouTube description of this video
Itis time to wake up our bodies…to allow the Holy Spirit…the Kundalini, the Chi…to stir and inform our cellular levels.    At this time of the Second Comining…the Christ force itself actually penetrating our minds, feelings, bodies…we must slow down and dismantle the mechanisms of global numbing.

We must explore desire and its role in bringing God into our body…and practice infusing our body with the vibration of God.

It is time.


DJ Caleb said about Ekstasis Worship 
  

“This generation is hungry, hungry for the mysteries of God…This generation longs to experience God in a way, in an abandoned way like never before…They long to release their passions for God…When we are making decrees and we are praising God the music in your jumping and your dancing and your moving around well the words that were speaking becomes one at a cellular level in your body and its not like your learning it its part of who you are.. its no longer that you have to study the word but when your inside of a infused atmosphere with dancing and your body is moving and the word is coming and the music it becomes part of you…and its just like ah man with the rythm the sound and the repetiveness of the music the word is driven into your body not just your mind not just your soul but the whole mind, body and soul….Ekstasis Worship is worship that you go outside of your mind and just release yourself into abandoned worship of God go into the ecstacy of God…Club Mysterio is a place where you can come and experience Ekstasis Worship…”

Now the youtuber mysticalerotica doesn’t seem to be claiming they are a christian but that they are a spiritual teacher…it appears that they are into another religion or spirituality that is not christianity…But this person describes their kundalini awakening in their body “to stir and inform our cellular levels.” DJ Caleb speaks in the same likeness as this person mysticalerotica when he says well the words that were speaking becomes one at a cellular level in your body”…Notice DJ Caleb is not talking about speaking forth the word of God but our own words “to stir and inform our cellular levels” to quote youtuber mysticaleroticia….Notice also that DJ Caleb also never mentioned our spirit or the Spirit of God in us…he says in reference to the affect of speaking our own words through the repetiveness of the music, jumping, and dancing drives our own words into our body not just your mind not just your soul (notice this) but the “whole mind, body, and soul.” 

The mind is part of our soul…the soul makes up the mind, the will, and the emotions….Also I found another website talking about Ecstatic Dance coming from Shamans..
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Ecstatic experience is the oldest form of healing and spiritual practice known with evidence of it dating back over 30,000 years to ancient traditions of shamanism. It is believed that shamans were the first to discover and codify the use and power of rhythm through drumming, dancing, and chanting to carry them on their journeys into a world beyond the ordinary.

The “flight of ecstasy” is an anthropological term given to the shaman’s journey into these non-ordinary realms. In The World is as You Dream It, John Perkins introduces us to “dream change”, a translated term Ecuadorian shamans use to describe this flight of ecstasy and its purpose. The basic tenet of shamanism holds that our physical universe is an emanation, a protrusion, a dream, from this non-ordinary reality that is believed to be the source of all creation.

Dancing through a shamanic portal

Ecstatic dance, which is sometimes referred to as trance dance, is based on the tenets of shamanism and has been used for eons as a method for dream change. It’s a multi-layered experience that takes the dancer on an inner journey to connect him to other sources of guidance, activate abilities to re-invent him, or invite spirit or life force energy to embody and heal him. Actually, the term ’embody’ is a bit misleading, because this life force energy is within each of us, already. The demands, addictions, and over-rational beliefs of the modern world, however, have served to impede its flow and fragment this awareness away from us, taking with it other vital aspects of the self. Ecstatic dance helps restore this vital flow of life force and recover lost parts of the soul in the process. It is a way to re-member and activate the inherent shamanic archetype we each carry within our body-mind complex – an archetype that reveals our interconnections within the greater web of life and seeks to identify and consciously change the dreams that no longer serve our well-being.

Ecstatic dance is a form of active meditation or prayer where music, movement, and the breath are used to shift brain wave patterns from the day-to-day cognitive beta state, to the more meditative and insightful alpha state. The terms trance and altered state of consciousness refer to brain waves resonating at this alpha state, as well as theta and delta. Michael Harner has coined the term shamanic state of consciousness (SSC) to describe this level of awareness. The SSC is what the ecstatic dancer seeks, as well as the shaman, to initiate the dream change process.

Before entering an ecstatic dance journey, the dancer forms an intention for a particular dream change. When the dancer enters an SSC through the dance, the veils that appeared to separate the self into mind, body, and soul in ordinary reality are pulled away so that the dancer can experience herself and her intention at another level. In the landscape of the SSC, she feels an expanded sense of herself in communication with a greater source of being. She may experience her intention as already existing. This is because the SSC connects us with a more transcendent reality beyond the bounds of time and linear existence, as we know it. Not only do the veils that separate aspects of the self fall away, but also those that clearly differentiate past, present, and future. In ecstatic dance, the dream change we desire can be conceived as a pattern of energy that already exists which we then allow ourselves to entrain or resonate with.

With the music on, or drumming in the air, the dancer gently surrenders her body to the rhythms, allowing her movements to express and intuitively entrain to the energy of her intended dream change. The mind remains in a relaxed, yet attentive state, observing the process more than directing it. As the body moves within the SSC, a deeper wisdom begins to stir. … Hidden doors in the psyche open and information in the form of images, sensations, or insights related to the intention arise into conscious awareness, holographically. The dance then becomes a dialogue of sorts between the worlds; the body listening and responding to deeper cues and information through movement, while the mind makes note of journey imagery and interjects a telepathic question or comment now and then. The dance becomes not only a place to express one’s intention through movement, but also to listen for feedback and guidance on that intention from deeper sources of being.

It’s not unusual for ecstatic dance to open up into what people describe as a visionary experience of a mystical or spiritual nature. In these experiences, dancers report such things as communicating with spirit guides, animals, nature spirits, the earth, geometric shapes or symbols, or being immersed in a divine healing light or energy. Information gained in these experiences is frequently described as an instantaneous transmission or downloading of a large chunk of knowledge. Although it may take several pages in a journal to relay the information afterwards, it was all seen, learned, or realized within mere seconds. It also happens that specific information about your journey is not immediately available to you, but may take weeks or even months to rise into conscious awareness. It may take even longer to fully integrate this information into your life, so patience, reflection, diligence, and self-compassion are key. Information gained during ecstatic dance journeys can augment more traditional forms of therapy.

Ecstatic dance sees the body as a holy vessel of the spirit, a sacred kiva (a room used for religious rituals) where we can awaken our greatest talents, healing, and dream change abilities, oftentimes hidden from our sight for years. The dance then becomes a source of revelation and renewal. From this experience our whole being: body, mind, and soul, is honored as sacred and the work of beauty it is. There is a sense of profound sense of sovereignty and sanctity that comes when the body has a time and place to genuinely express this deeper wisdom of the self, without having our socialized sensibilities reprimand or censor its expression. This in itself can be incredibly transformational.

http://www.firetribehawaii.org/articles/ecstaticdance.shtml

Here is a quote from another website on Ecstatic dancing…

This is a call out to my sacred dancer kin in the Portland and Los Angeles area codes. As a promoter/participant with Ekstasis Dance (www.ekstasisdance.com) on behalf of my friend Luna Ravenchild I am putting it out there about an opportunity to partake in a weekend long intensive in Kundalini Dance(www.kundalini-dance.com). This form, a nice companion to Gabrielle Roth’s Ecstatic Dance continues Luna’s sacred dance facilitation which began with the 5 Rhythms. This system,synthesized in its modern form by Antara Decker, integrates awakening the kundalini and moving it through the chakra’s is melded with the sounds of the electronic underground. Accompanying Luna is her partner DJ Solus. Currently Luna is the sole facilitator of Kundalini Dance journeys in North America. 


Festival and event organizers we are also interested in continuing to bring Kundalini Dance shorter workshops to these environments and have done so at Journey of the Shaman (Oracle Gathering), Shambhala Festival (where it returns again this summer),Mage Festival, and the Intention Retreat. Please contact me for an info package. 

The New Jesus by Nance Gregg

Here is something my mom sent me today by email that I thought was pretty good…
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, Jesus, but it looks like you’re pretty well out of a job. Your followers have decided to replace you with someone more in keeping with the times, and the times apparently call for a new, improved Savior – one who is okay with torture, adores a good war, and just generally kicks butt. Let’s face it, Lord, it’s not like you didn’t have a good run. Two thousand years is nothin’ to sneeze at in the Son of God business. But the whole Prince of Peace shtick just ain’t going over as well as it used to back in the day. These Christians we got nowadays don’t want to hear about turning the other cheek, being thy brother’s keeper, loving thy neighbor, yadda, yadda. They’re just not into that Do Unto Others thing, and would much rather have a Do Unto Yourself kind of credo, if you get my drift. What they want to hear is that accumulating personal wealth was part of your divine plan all along. They want to get on their cellphone and order a Green Prayer Cloth of Prosperity to place on their Bible as they pray for that promotion-plus-raise-plus-stock-options – and know that if they act now, they can get two for the price of one donation. They want to hear that things like hating Muslims, homosexuals and Liberals were only left out of the Commandments because your Dad could only fit ten on the tablets, and inadvertently left off the really important stuff. So what they’ve done is they’ve come up with a new Jesus, one created in their own image and likeness. (How’s that for irony?) And because the new kid on the cross is willing to see things their way, he’s catching on with the Fundies like a burning Bush (ha, ha, made you laugh!) Yeah, this New Jesus is something else again. You won’t catch him blessin’ the Peacemakers and talking about that goodwill towards men crap (although I understand that if the New Jesus preaches forgiveness for adulterers and fornicators, especially if they happen to be elected-to-office Republicans, that’s appreciated). Yes, sir, this New Jesus is ready to rock. If people on the other side of the world stand in the way of good Christians having the oil they need to get their Mercedes to church on Sunday, well screw ‘em. If sick kids are going to be a drain on taxpayers’ dollars, screw ‘em. If the workers are going to start demanding decent wages, screw ‘em. And for God’s sake (no disrespect intended), let’s hear some positive parables about how the money-changers in the temple were really the good guys, and how that eye of a needle that rich men have to pass though to get into heaven is actually big enough to accommodate an SUV, fully loaded! You see where this is going, Jesus? (Being all-seeing and all-knowing, I kinda figured you might.) You’re just an acoustic guitar with a simple lyric about brotherhood and compassion in a world of fix-it-in-the-mix muzak for the masses. Now, I don’t want to say you’re out of business entirely. You still got some people down here who believe in you just the way you are – that is, just the way you’ve always been, before the mega-rich preachers in the mega-churches started advertising a more pliable Savior with a more palatable agenda. Hey, don’t get me wrong, Jesus. Your real fans are still out there. If you don’t hear them cheering as loudly as you used to, it’s just because they’re being drowned out by the megachurch megaphones blaring hatred and bigotry from every corner, selling this New Jesus who will do their bidding. Sorry to be the bearer of these bad tidings, but if you’re going to insist on sticking with that as you do to the least among you, so you do unto Me act, it seems you’re going to have to start getting used to playing to smaller crowds.

Author: Nance Greggs
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