John MacArthur on the Emergent Church

Pt 1

Pt 2

How can a true work of the Holy
Spirit be distinguished from that which is false?

From a careful study of 1 John 4, the great theologian and pastor Jonathan Edwards was able to identify five distinguishing characteristics of the Holy Spirit’s work. In short, a true work of the Holy Spirit:

  • Exalts the true Christ
  • Opposes Satan’s interests
  • Points people to the Scriptures
  • Elevates truth
  • Results in love for God and others.

(The following material is condensed, adapted and excerpted from Jonathan Edward’s The Distinguishing Marks of a Work of the Spirit of God.)

It Exalts the True Christ.

“By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world” (John 4:2-3).

When a ministry raises people’s esteem of the one true Jesus Christ, who was born of a virgin and was crucified-if it confirms and establishes their minds in the truth that He is the Son of God and the Savior of men-then it is a sure sign that it is from the Spirit of God.

If the spirit at work among a people convinces them of Christ and leads them to Him; if it confirms their minds in the belief of the history of Christ as He appeared in the flesh; if it teaches them that He is the Son of god to save sinners; if it reveals that He is the only Savior, and that they stand in great need of Him; and if it begets in them higher and more honorable thoughts of Christ than they used to have; if it inclines their affections more to Him-that is a sure sign that it is the true and right Spirit. This is true even though we are ultimately incapable of determining whether anyone’s conviction or affections reflect real saving faith.

The words of the apostle are remarkable. The person to whom the Spirit testifies must be that Jesus who appeared in the flesh-not another christ in His stead. It cannot be some mystical, fantastical Christ, such as the “inner light” extolled by the Quakers. This imaginary christ diminishes their esteem of and dependence on Jesus as He came in the flesh. The true Spirit of God gives testimony for that Jesus alone.

The devil has a fierce hatred against Christ, especially in His office as the Savior of men. Satan mortally hates the story and doctrine of redemption; he never would go about to stress these truths. The Spirit that inclines men’s hearts to the Seed of the woman is not the spirit of the serpent that has such an irreconcilable enmity against Him.

It Opposes Satan’s Interests

“You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them.” (1 John 4:4-5)

When the spirit that is at work operates against the interests of Satan’s kingdom, against sin, and against worldly lusts-this is a sure sign that it is a true, and not a false spirit.

Here is a plain antithesis. The apostle is comparing those who are influenced by two opposite spirits, the true and the false. The difference is plain: the one is of God, and overcomes the spirit of the world; the other is of the world, and is obsessed with the things of the world. The devil is called “he who is in the world.”

What the apostle means by “the world,” or “the things that are in the world,” we learn by his own words: “Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world” (2:15-16). So by “the world” the apostle evidently means everything that pertains to the interest of sin. The term also comprehends all the corruptions and lusts of men, as well as all those acts and objects by which they are gratified.

We may also safely determine from what the apostle says that whatever lessons people’s esteem of the pleasures, profits, and honors of the world; whatever turns their hearts from an eager pursuit after these things; whatever engages them in a due concern about eternity and causes them earnestly to seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness; whatever convinces them of the dreadfulness of sin, the guilt it brings, and the misery to which it exposes, must be the Spirit of God.

It is not to be supposed that Satan would convince men of sin or awaken the conscience. It can no way serve his end to make that candle of the Lord shine the brighter. It is for his interest, whatever he does, to lull conscience asleep and keep it quite. To have that with its eyes and mouth open in the soul would tend to clog and hinder all his designs of darkness. The awakened conscience would evermore disturb his affairs, cross his interests, and disquiet him. Would the devil, when he is about to establish people in sin, take such a course? Would he make them more careful, inquisitive, and watchful to discern what is sinful, and to avoid future sins, and to be more wary of the devil’s temptations?

The man who has an awakened conscience is the least likely to be deceived of any man in the world; it is the drowsy, insensible, stupid conscience that is most easily blinded. The Spirit that operates thus cannot be the spirit of the devil; Satan will not cast out Satan (Matt. 12:25-26). Therefore if we see persons made sensible of the dreadful nature of sin and the displeasure of God against it, we may conclude that whatever effects this concern is from the Spirit of God.

It Points People to the Scriptures

“We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6).

The spirit that causes people to have a greater regard for the Holy Scriptures and establishes them more in the truth and divinity of God’s Word is certainly the Spirit of God.

The devil never would attempt to beget in persons a regard to the divine Word. A spirit of delusion will not incline persons to seek direction at the mouth of God. “to the law and to the testimony!” (Isa. 8:20) is never the cry of evil spirits who have no light in them. On the contrary, it is God’s own direction to discover their delusions. Would the spirit of error, in order to deceive men, beget in them a high opinion of the infallible Word? Would the prince of darkness, in order to promote his kingdom of darkness, lead men to the sun? The devil has always shown a mortal spite and hatred towards that holy book, the Bible. He has done all in his power to extinguish that light, or else draw men off from it. He knows it to be that light by which his kingdom of darkness is to be overthrown. He has long experienced its power to defeat his purposes and baffle his designs. It is his constant plague. It is the sword of the Spirit that pierces him and conquers him. It is that sharp sword that we read of in Revelation 19:15, which proceeds out of the mouth of Him that sat on the horse, with which He smites His enemies. Every text is a dart to torment the old serpent. He has felt the stinging smart thousands of times.

Therefore the devil is engaged against the Bible and hates every word in int. We may be sure that he never will attempt to raise anyone’s esteem of it.

It Elevates Truth

“We know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (v. 6).

Another rule by which to judge spirits is that whatever operates as a spirit of truth, leading people to truth, convincing them of those things that are true-we may safely determine that it is a right and true spirit.

For instance, if the spirit at work makes men more aware than they used to be of the central gospel truths: that there is a God; that He is a great and sin-hating God; that life is short and very uncertain; that there is another world; that they have immortal souls; that they must give account of themselves to God; that they are exceeding sinful by nature and practice; that they are helpless in themselves-then that spirit operates as a spirit of truth. He represents things as they truly are. He brings men to the light.

On the other hand, the spirit of darkness will not uncover and make manifest the truth. Christ tells us that Satan is a liar, and the father of lies. His kingdom is a kingdom of darkness. It is upheld and promoted only by darkness and error. Satan has all his power and dominion by darkness. Whatever spirit removes our darkness and brings us to the light undeceives us. If I am brought to the truth and am made aware of things as they really are, my duty is immediately to thank God for it without inquiring by what means I have such a benefit.

It Results in Love for God and Others

“The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love” (v. 8).

If the spirit that is at work among a people operates as a spirit of love to God and man, it is a sure sign that it is the Spirit of God. This last mark which the apostle gives of the true Sprit he seems to speak of as the most eminent. He devotes more space to it and so insists much more largely on it than all the rest.

When the spirit that is at work among the people brings many of them to high and exalting thoughts of the Divine Being and His glorious perfections; when it works in them an admiring, delightful sense of the excellency of Jesus Christ, representing Him as the chief among ten thousand and altogether lovely; when it makes Him precious to the soul, winning and drawing the heart with those motives and incitements to free love of God and the wonderful dying love of Christ-it must be the Spirit of God.

“We love, because He first loved us,” verse 19 says. The spirit that makes the soul long after God and Christ must be the Spirit of God. When we desire the presence and communion of the diving Savior, acquaintance with Him, conformity to Him, a life that pleases and honors Him, we must be under the influence of His Spirit.

Moreover, the spirit that quells contentions among men gives a spirit of peace and good-will, excites to acts of outward kindness, earnestly desires the salvation of souls, and arouses love for all the children of God and followers of Christ. I say that when a spirit operates after this manner, there is the highest kind of evidence that this is the Holy Spirit.

Indeed, there is a counterfeit love that often appears among those who are led by a spirit of delusion. There is commonly in the wildest enthusiasts a kind of union and affection arising from self-love. It is occasioned by their agreeing on issues where they greatly differ from all others and for which they are objects of ridicule from the rest of mankind. That naturally will cause them so much the more to prize those peculiarities that make them the objects of others’ contempt. (Thus the ancient Gnostics and the wild fanatics that appeared at the beginning of the Reformation boasted of their great love to one another-one sect of them in particular calling themselves “the family of love.”) But this is quite another thing than that Christian love I have just described.

There is enough said in this passage of the nature of a truly Christian love to distinguish it from all such counterfeits. It is love that arises from apprehension of the wonderful riches of the free grace and sovereignty of God’s love to us in Jesus Christ. It is attended with a sense of our own utter unworthiness (see vv. 9-11, 19). The surest character of true, divine, supernatural love-distinguishing it from counterfeits that arise from a natural self-love-is that the Christian virtue of humility shines in it. It is a love which above all others renounces, abases, and annihilates what we term self. Christ’s love is a humble love (1 Cor. 13:4-5).

When, therefore, we see a love attended with a sense of one’s own littleness, vileness, weakness, and utter insufficiency; when it is united with self-diffidence, self-emptiness, self-renunciation, and poverty of spirit-those are the manifest tokens of the Spirit of God.

He that thus dwells in love dwells in God, and God in him.


These marks that the apostle has given us are sufficient to stand alone and support themselves. They plainly show the finger of God and are sufficient to outweigh a thousand such little objections as many make from oddities, irregularities, errors in conduct, and the delusions and scandals of some professors.

But here some may object. After all, the apostle Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11:13-14, “Such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.”

To which I answer that this can be no objection against the sufficiency of these marks to distinguish the true from the false spirit in those false apostles and prophets-even when the devil is transformed into an angel of light. After all, the very reason the apostle John gave these marks was so that we could test the spirits. Therefore try the spirits by these rules and you will be able to distinguish the true spirit from the false-even under such a crafty disguise.

Excerpted from Appendix 2 of Reckless Faith by John MacArthur, pp. 225-31.

(Note: Found at John MacArthurs website

Emerging Church cult leader Rob Bell heresies exposed

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David Wilkerson-The Most Important Issue of This Hour

-by David Wilkerson  (June 2, 2008).

Christians all over the world have a sense we’re living in the final
days. The mounting crises, the growing fears, the signs of great
shaking — all these things are evident, even to secular
commentators. Now, for every follower of Jesus, the question of
the hour is this: “Will my faith endure what is coming?”

I believe the most important issue of this hour
has to do with what
is called “enduring faith.” Simply put, will the faith of God’s people
endure the terrible shaking of all things, the intense trials and
testings to come, which no previous generation has faced?

Jesus promised, “He that shall endure unto the end, the same
shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). When Christ spoke this, he had
just described the frightful trials to come upon his disciples: false
messiahs, wars and rumors of wars, nation pitted against nation,
upheavals in the natural world, earthquakes and pestilence,
persecution and martyrdom (see 24:4–12). When those days
arrive, Jesus said, “Many shall come in my name… and shall
deceive many” (24:5).

What would be the impact of all these things on the church, those
who call themselves by his name? Jesus states very clearly:
“Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold” (24:12).

Already, our
nation is feeling the tremors of the frightful shaking.

Right now, America is facing an economic “perfect storm.”
This past March (2008), the American financial system nearly
collapsed. Bear Stearns, one of the nation’s top financial
institutions, had to be rescued from bankruptcy by the Federal
Bank. The Wall Street Journal, a newspaper not prone to
alarmism, blared the startling headline: “Fed Saves American
Financial System From Collapse.”

The Fed had to pour $30 billion into the deal initially, to stave off a
panic that would have sunk this nation into the worst economic
depression in its history. To date, more than $300 billion has been
put into the system to save it.

Ten years ago, I wrote a book entitled, America’s Last Call: On
the Brink of a Financial Holocaust. In that book, I warned of the
following events:

-There would be a meltdown of the bond market.
judgment would strike suddenly on the U.S. economy.
-A brief, false sense of prosperity would precede the coming
economic collapse. (This short flicker of prosperity would be God’s
final mercy call before the chastening to come.)
-There would be a real estate meltdown, with a market made up of
mostly sellers and very few buyers. Multitudes would lose their
homes to repossession.
-There would be an ominous rise of homosexual power.
-A sudden storm of confusion would take place on Wall Street.
-God’s watchmen and prophets would be silenced.
-The U.S. dollar would collapse.
-America would lose control of its economy. To date, China has
loaned America hundreds of billions of dollars. We have become
the world’s number one debtor nation, no longer in control of our
-Along with many other watchmen, I see that the greatest shaking
of all is still to come.
-What we are about to witness upon the
earth will affect every
person living. The world is going to see a temporary calm, with
relative stability, causing many to say, “The crisis has passed.”
But in truth, the real panic will still be ahead of us.

Right now, a political madness is gripping America. Think about it:
it is utter madness for politicians to promise all kinds of new,
multibillion-dollar programs, while the Fed is scrambling to keep
the nation’s head above the rising flood of debt.

Yet, for the church of Jesus Christ, the real issue is not economic
collapse. It isn’t even about who presides over the nation. Rather,
it is all about enduring faith.

Indeed, this one issue has to be foremost in the minds of all who
claim to serve Jesus. I ask you: do you at present have an abiding
trust in the Lord that will hold up when the world descends into
chaos? Or will you waver in times of affliction, as the fearful things
said would come begin to appear on the earth? When that
hour comes to pass, will your love for the Lord endure? Or will it
grow cold, as Jesus predicted would happen to so many believers?

I ask these questions not to judge or condemn anyone concerning
his or her walk with Christ. I ask them of our readers only because
these are the questions Jesus put to all who would choose to
follow him.

Christ asked, “When the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on
the earth?” (Luke 18:8).
Let me give you the context for Jesus’ question here.

He had just told the story of a persistent woman who asked a
judge to rule in her favor and bring justice to her cause. Jesus
uses her as an example of the kind of persistent, enduring faith he
is looking for: the kind that calls upon God in times of trial and
trusts him to fulfill his promises. Christ knew such enduring faith
would be the only kind able to
sustain his people in the times to come.

When Jesus addresses this issue of enduring faith, he speaks of
those whose belief will endure “but for a while.” In other words,
when their prayers are not answered — when the deadlines for
their requests are not met — they will fall into unbelief. Why?
Their faith has no roots.

“He hath no root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when
tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by
he is offended” (Matthew 13:21).

Too often, when afflictions begin showing up in such believers’ lives,
they become offended. You’ve probably heard such “offense”
expressed by Christians who have faced dire afflictions. They have
read God’s Word, they have claimed certain promises, they have
prayed earnestly, but still their trial continues. And, over time,
because they haven’t seen an answer to their prayers, they
become offended
by the Word they’ve been clinging to.

At some point, a seed of unbelief is planted in their heart. And
soon they begin to question God’s faithfulness. They can’t shake
the nagging thought that the Lord has failed to keep his promises to them.

They trusted in him for a while. Whenever you talked with them,
their conversation was full of faith, and they testified of God’s
trustworthiness. But now you begin to hear little doubts in their
speech. Instead of faith, you hear questions, remarks that betray
an inner unbelief.

Make no mistake, Satan feeds those growing doubts. Over time,
prayer becomes a burden to such believers. Their love for God’s
Word begins to fade until they never pick up their Bible anymore.
Eventually, their passion for Christ is reduced to a flicker.

Some reading this message are in a dangerous place with their
faith. Maybe what I’ve said here has struck a chord in
your soul. I
must ask you: have you allowed seeds of unbelief in your heart?
Do you now have serious questions regarding God’s faithfulness?
Instead of worshiping him, do you now doubt him?

“Lord, why haven’t you intervened for me? Why have you allowed
such confusion in my marriage, my family? You have put on me
more than I’m able to bear.” Such an attitude can lead to a
hardened heart and eventually spiritual deadness.

The apostle Paul exhorted Timothy, “Endure hardness, as a good
soldier of Jesus Christ” (2 Timothy 2:3). The Greek word for
“hardness” here indicates suffering, difficult afflictions. What does
Paul say about these things to Timothy? “Endure them, son! You
are a soldier in the Lord’s army. You’ve been trained to undergo
hardship in spiritual battle.”

We see this reflected in the Old Testament as well. We are told,
“The eyes of the Lord run to and fro
throughout the whole earth, to
show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect
towards him” (2 Chronicles 16:9, my italics). The Hebrew word for
“perfect” in this verse means “wholly given to him in trust.”

Think of it: God looks down upon the whole earth, searching
diligently for that man or woman of faith who is wholly given to him
in trust. Whenever the Lord finds such a servant, he says of that
person, “This beloved one is holding fast to his faith and confidence
in me. Therefore, I will show myself strong to him. He’s going to
know my power, to see my strong arm revealed on his behalf.”

The words in this verse were first spoken to King Asa, ruler of
Judah, by the prophet Hanani. The searching eyes of the Lord had
come upon King Asa, who was loved because he “did what was
right before God’s eyes.”

Asa was by every measure a righteous man who trusted God.
walked in faith, bringing each matter before the Lord so he might
receive divine direction. The king was a devoted man of prayer,
wholly dependent on God — and his actions proved it.

Asa abolished idolatry in the land, tearing down all false gods. He
abolished witchcraft, sodomy and prostitution. And he built up the
cities, with strong towers, high walls and secure gates. Under this
faithful king’s rule, the nation of Judah prospered and was blessed.

And Asa was faithful to remind the people that all their blessings
had come to them “because we have sought the Lord our God, we
have sought him, and he hath given us rest on every side. So they
built and prospered” (2 Chronicles 14:7).

It must have been wonderful to be an Israelite living in Judah at
that time. Try to imagine the atmosphere in Judah during those
years under Asa’s righteous rule. There was peace all around,
everything in divine order. The people were blessed, with full
employment and abundant harvests, because God was in their
midst. No one had to go off to war, because both the king and the
people were seeking after the Lord. There was no call for judgment
because these were an obedient people.

But one day, suddenly, that peaceful environment changed. A
messenger brought to Asa a frightful report: a million-man army
was spied heading toward Judah. The Ethiopians and Lubims had
combined forces, and now they had a huge militia. It was made up
of 300 chariots, multitudes of horsemen, and a million-man infantry,
all racing toward Judah and bent on its destruction.

On the very day prior to this, Asa had called on the people to give
thanks to the Lord, for the peace and blessings they were enjoying
because they had sought him. Now we read, “And there came out
against them…” (2 Chronicles 14:9).
Overnight, Judah was at war,
facing one million hostile soldiers.

So, what does a trusting servant of God do when facing such a
dilemma? How does he react? Will he panic? Will he turn to the
arm of man for help, or place everything into the Lord’s hands, in
total trust?

God had his searching eye on Asa in this critical hour.
What was the righteous king’s reaction?

“Asa cried unto the Lord his God, and said, Lord, it is nothing with
thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power:
help us, O Lord our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we
go against this multitude. O Lord, thou art our God; let not man
prevail against thee. So the Lord smote the Ethiopians before Asa,
and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled” (2 Chronicles 14:11–12).

Tell me, what does Asa’s reaction here say to us, the church of
Jesus Christ, today? This godly man had been given the
horrible, frightful news. He was facing incomprehensible odds
against his survival, much less victory.

Beloved, the meaning of this passage is clear: it shows us that
victory — impossible victory — is preserved for those who put their
trust wholly in the Lord.

The awful crisis had fallen on Asa and Judah during their most
wonderful time of seeking the Lord, when God was smiling on
them with his favor.

I can’t explain why the Lord allows attacks on his godly servants.
But I do know Scripture warns us to expect fiery trials to test our
faith. Yet, even so, we are told God will find pure gold in our
enduring faith.

Surely the Lord was pleased with Asa’s faith in this crisis. Still, he
sent a prophet to warn him:

“Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah…The Lord is with you, while ye
be with him; and if you seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye
forsake him, he will forsake
you” (2 Chronicles 15:2).

The prophet added that this had been true for God’s people
throughout their history. In times past, whenever there was no
peace but only vexation and trouble, each time God’s people
turned to seek him he was found of them (see 15:3–4).

Azariah’s prophecy to Judah is a warning to the church of Jesus
Christ today as well: “One glorious victory of faith is not enough.”

More great trials will come to pass in the life of every believer.
Indeed, the more you seek the Lord, the greater your call, the
deeper your walk with him — you’ll also encounter further
afflictions and sufferings, ever-increasing tests of faith. These will
continue until the end, Scripture assures us.

So, what is God’s message to us in all of this? Simply the
following: We are not to be shaken in faith when even greater tests
come upon us.

Beloved, please know that I do not speak
this word to you lightly.
What I am preaching in this message has been born from my own
personal crucible of great sufferings, hard times and crushing trials of faith.

Don’t misunderstand: I am not complaining. I can testify that I have
seen the loving hand of God in every trial and tribulation throughout
my years. I have watched as my wife, Gwen, and my two
daughters have come close to death from cancer. I have endured
the death of a granddaughter from cancer. I have seen all my
children and grandchildren under attack at various times. And I
have gone through personal fiery trials.

Through it all, I have experienced eclipses of faith, where the
Lord’s face seemed completely hidden from me during my ordeal.
Yet, after all these years of afflictions, here I stand, testifying that
God has brought me through each trial with peace and his song of victory.

Yet, this is not the end of the

After thirty-six years of walking in trust and enduring trials faithfully,
Asa grieved God’s heart.
Another terrible crisis arose in Asa’s life. This time, the righteous
king of Judah lost his faith.

Up to that point, Asa had lived as a trusting man of God. He was a
vibrant example of devoted faith and zeal, seeking the Lord
continually. His ministry over Judah had brought about a powerful
spiritual revival in that land, establishing God’s righteous rule.

Then another sudden crisis befell Asa and the nation of Judah.
This time, word came to the king that Jerusalem was being
blockaded by an enemy army. All trade routes into Judah had
been shut down by this foe. The town of Ramah, just five miles
outside of Jerusalem, had been invaded, captured and fortified,
with all roads shut. No one could go in or come out.

The blockade could cripple Judah’s economy. Something had to
done quickly, or the people would starve. So, what did King Asa do?

This time, he did not go to the Lord. In fact, Asa didn’t even pray
or consult his spiritual advisors. Instead, he panicked. He didn’t
just put his trust in man — he relied on his own enemy! Asa
turned to wicked king Ben-hadad of Syria, Judah’s arch enemy, to
seek military aid.

In this way, Asa bribed his way out of the conflict. He stripped the
nation’s treasury of all silver and gold and sent it to King
Ben-hadad, with this message: “Here is all of our gold and silver.
It’s yours. Just get this invader off my back. Deliver me from my

How utterly tragic! It is always a great tragedy when godly people
who have trusted God before the world’s eyes suddenly fail in their
belief, turning to the flesh in a time of crisis. And the world
responds with mockery, saying, “Is this what happens after
years believing in God? Is this how faith ends, in
shipwreck? How foolish that you ever believed in God in the first place.”

Now another prophet was sent to Asa, with this word from the Lord:

“Because thou hast relied on the king of Syria, and not relied on
the Lord thy God, therefore is the host of the king of Syria escaped
out of thine hand…. Therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars”
(2 Chronicles 16:7, 9).

Let me sum up this whole issue of enduring faith.
Here is enduring faith: it is the committing of all things into God’s
hands. Enduring faith says to the Lord, “I cast every event, every
future success, into your care. And I hold you to your promise to
commit all that you are — all your omniscience and omnipotent
strength — to preserve me.”

Whenever we face afflictions and persecution, Satan comes to us
whispering fears and lies:

“How are you going to make it
through this crisis? What will you
do now? If God is faithful, how could he allow this to happen to
you? How could he put your loved ones at risk this way? What will
become of you, your family, your job, your ministry?”

But enduring faith rises up and answers the enemy’s lies:

“Devil, you’re asking the wrong questions. The question for me
right now is not how I’m going to make it. It is not what shall
become of me and mine. I have already placed everything — all
afflictions, all trials, everything that concerns me — into my loving
Father’s hands. I have trusted all future events to him. And he has
proved himself faithful time after time. He is trustworthy with my future.”

With this established in our hearts, the question for us then
becomes clear.
The question for us is, “How can I love and serve my Lord better?
How shall I serve others as myself?”

You see, enduring faith
means casting ourselves wholly on the will
of God as Jesus describes it in the Sermon on the Mount. In short:
we are to seek God and his concerns first, and the desires of our
heart will then be given to us (see Matthew 6:33).

Enduring faith declares, “I have no will of my own. Rather, his will
be done. No more personal agenda for me. No more playing God
by trying to solve my own problems or those of others. Holy Spirit,
keep my mind stayed on my Lord and his promises.”

With such faith, we’ll be ready for whatever the present hour brings. Amen!

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Morality being compromised

check out Political Pistachio’s blogtalk radio program from Sunday Nov. 23, 2008 with host Doug v. Gibbs invites Robert Peters from on how morality is dropping at the cost of our souls…

Creeping Incrementalism: Morality in Media Robert Peters joins Political Pistachio Radio Revolution

Zack and Miri make a p0rno is an “R” rated movie that was banned in Utah. Sign of the times? Have moral standards dropped to a point of creating a waning concern for youth? Political Pistachio – Conservative Commentary

Freedom is being perverted as a means to sin and expose more people to sinful acts. Hollywood is brainwashing people to its point of view on sin…treating pornography like it is a normal everyday natural thing to be accepted out in the open public…We are being forced to accept the trash the put on the movies as entertaining and acceptable for entertainment…Its sin and perversion…God tells His people to be holy for HE is Holy…believers should separate themselves from the profane things of this world and keep themselves clean before God…not support the world with our monies to continue to shove what is profane down our throats in the name of entertainment…there is no shame or fear of God….

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The Trojan Church

Dr. Stan Monteith interviews Gregory Reid on his book “Trojan Church: New Age Corruption of the Evangelical Faith”. Discussion on the leaven of new age influences being christianized in order to use them to expand the kingdom of wolves in sheeps clothing in the name of reaching more people for Jesus.  Heretical movements like the Emerging Church with heretical leaders like Brian McClaren and Rick Warren who are making millions of dollars for bringing in destructive and damnable heries as if they are biblical.

Here is the link to hear the audio program dated 11/19/08  titled Gregory Reid : Trojan Church. Hour: a-1hr.

Also I am adding the website link to Gregory Reid’s website

Another Blog posts inciteful info on the Obama citizenship

This just sent to me by email….This was posted by Texasdarlin’s blog on Oct. 12, 2008. Here is a quoted portion so you can see what this is about…but you can read the entire post at the link below the quote…God bless… 


“We now wonder if our assumption about Obama’s birth place was wrong.

I have received an unverified tip that certified copies of a Kenyan Birth Certificate (BC) for Obama were sent from Kenya, and have been received by three separate individuals. I am told that these documents are certified, with an embossed seal, and display the name of the hospital where Obama was born, as well as witness signatures.

Reportedly this BC reflects information filed Oct. 9 by Philip Berg.”

Update on the Constitutional crisis: Investigating into Obama’s citizenship

Worldnet Daily’s latest report.

‘Constitutional crisis’ looming over Obama’s birth location
Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see ‘usurper’ in Oval Office

Posted: November 14, 2008
8:40 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama’s status as a “natural-born citizen,” a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama’s birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn’t ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

The governor’s office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii?

Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has named two different Hawaii hospitals where Obama could have been born, while a video posted on YouTube features Obama’s Kenyan grandmother Sarah claiming to have witnessed Obama’s birth in Kenya.

The California action was filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation on behalf of Alan Keyes, the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, along with Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson, both California electors.

“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal,” the action challenges

The petition is a request for the Superior Court of California in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring Secretary of State Debra Bowen “from both certifying to the governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.”

It continues with a request for a writ barring California’s electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof is produced.

An Obama spokesperson interviewed by WND described such lawsuits as “garbage.”

The popular vote Nov. 4 favored Obama over Sen. John McCain by several percentage points. But because of the distribution of the votes, Obama is projected to take the Electoral College vote, when it is held in December, by a 2-to-1 margin.

Named as defendants in the action are Bowen, Obama, vice president elect Joe Biden and the long list of California party electors.

Citing the constitutional requirement that a president be a “natural born” citizen, the case discusses other state and federal court cases regarding “aspects of lost or dual citizenship concerning Senator Obama. Those challenges, in and of themselves, demonstrate Petitioners’ argument that reasonable doubt exists as to the eligibility of the Democratic Party’s nominee for President,” the case said.

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“There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process,” the complaint said, when in fact the only documentation currently required is a signed statement from the candidate attesting to those qualifications.

“Since [the Secretary of State] has, as its core, the mission of certifying and establishing the validity of the election process, this writ seeks a Court Order barring SOS from certifying the California Electors until documentary proof that Senator Obama is a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States of America is received by her,” the document said.

“This proof could include items such as his original birth certificate, showing the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor, all of his passports with immigration stamps, and verification from the governments where the candidate has resided, verifying that he did not, and does not, hold citizenship of these countries, and any other documents that certify an individual’s citizenship and/or qualification for office.

“To this date, in this regard, SOS has not carried out that fundamental duty.”

The case said a simple attestation from the candidate or his party isn’t sufficient.

“Historically, California Secretaries of State have exercised their due diligence by reviewing necessary background documents, verifying that the candidates that were submitted by the respective political parties as eligible for the ballot were indeed eligible. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for President of the United States. The then SOS, Mr. Frank Jordan, found that, according to Mr. Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the 35 years of age needed to be on the ballot as a candidate for President. Using his administrative powers, Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Mr. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California, and, later, to the Supreme Court of the United States.”

Similarly, in 1984, the Peace and Freedom Party candidate Larry Holmes was removed from the ballot.

The “certificate of live birth” posted by the Obama campaign cannot be viewed as authoritative, the case alleges.

“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence,” the document said. “The only way to know where Senator Obama was actually born is to view Senator Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.”

The case also raises the circumstances of Obama’s time during his youth in Indonesia, where he was listed as having Indonesian citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, raising the possibility of Obama’s mother having given up his U.S. citizenship.

Any subsequent U.S. citizenship then, the case claims, would be “naturalized,” not “natural-born.”

“Based on all of the above, it is the duty of the SOS to obtain proper documentation of Senator Obama’s citizenship to confirm his eligibility for the office or the President of the United States,” the case said.

Just this week, WND has reported on more than half a dozen other legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding Obama’s decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status.

Among the states where cases are being tracked are Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Hawaii, and there were reports of other cases being developed in Utah, Wyoming, Florida, New York, North Carolina, Texas, California and Virginia.


Also there has arose another question about a possible fraud on another issue…

“Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama’s Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions”

Trunews Audio Please Listen

I got this in an email to listen to Trunews latest audio. Please take the time to listen to Trunews’ latest audio concerning our US Treasury to teach Bankers Sharia Banking…

Friday November 7, 2008

Guest: Jeremy Hammond and Christopher Holton

Topic: Senior corporate executives were warned to leave N.Y. before 9/11 and Islamic shariah law is being introduced in the US.

Christopher Holton’s websites

Christopher Holton interviewed on trunews broadcast said,


“This is how they started in Britain with this so called Islamic finance in which they introduce financial products and financial institutions which are sharia compliant…and they use that to gain a foothold…and as these sharia compliant financial institutions and products become accepted it is much easier for them to insinuate things like sharia family law into the host society…which is exactly what has happened in the UK”

“over the last year you have the arch bishop of canterbury basically capitulate and say Britain needs to incorporate Sharia into its legal system..and in fact Gordon Brown the prime minister of Great Britain has allowed that to happen and it has happened…and in fact when Gordon Brown gave his first speech on this he said its natural that sharia law should become part of British law because we’ve already accommodated it with Sharia finance…so this is absolutely an effort to insinuate and infiltrate sharia into our culture our legal system and into the american way of life…”


From Worldnet Daily

Brand new push in Congress to prevent Shariah invasion
Bill intended to assure citizens they won’t be governed by Islam
Sept 23, 2008
By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Rep. Tom Tancredo

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., introduced a bill to the House of Representatives that seeks to prevent Islamic law from gaining a foothold in the U.S. legal system, as it has in other countries.

Tancredo introduced HR 6975, the Jihad Prevention Act, last week. If made into law, the bill would allow American authorities to prevent advocates of Islamic law, or Shariah, from entering the country, revoke the visa of any foreigners that champion it and revoke naturalization for citizens that seek to implement it in the U.S.

The radical form of Shariah includes several statutes objectionable to Western minds, including stoning for adulterous women, amputation for thieves and the death sentence for converting from Islam.

“When you have an immigration policy that allows for the importation of millions of radical Muslims,” Tancredo said in a statement, “you are also importing their radical ideology – an ideology that is fundamentally hostile to the foundations of Western democracy – such as gender equality, pluralism and individual liberty.

“The best way to safeguard America against the importation of the destructive effects of this poisonous ideology is to prevent its purveyors from coming here in the first place,” Tancredo said.
As WND reported, large Muslim populations in Canada seeking to live out their faith have convinced the Canadian government to permit the enforcement of Shariah.

The journal of the American Bar Association reported last week that Islamic court rulings are now enforceable in the United Kingdom as well.

Tancredo said he “moved quickly” to prevent similar legal entanglements in the U.S.

“We need to send a clear message that the only law we recognize here in America is the U.S. Constitution and the laws passed by our democratically elected representatives,” he concluded. “If you aren’t comfortable with that concept, you aren’t welcome in the United States.”

WND contacted the Council on American-Islamic Relations for comment on the bill but received none.

HR 6975 has been referred to the House Committee on Judiciary for review.

House of God series by Monica Dennington

I just want to encourage everyone to check out Monica Dennington’s House of God series. It is completely free of charge to the public. The series is about the structure of God’s church His people.  Some titles from this series include

  • Women in the Church the Contradiction
  • The Law of Love
  • Should Women Teach
  • Whose the Boss? Kingdom Authority
  • Should women submit to men?
  • How to spot a wolf

These are just a few titles from the series. Monica Dennington has been taking people back to what the Word of God says about these things. She strips away the wisdom of men and this world concerning these things and points us to the wisdom of God His truth. So I just want to encourage people to take the time to watch and listen to this series if you haven’t done so already.

Here is the link to the website that was made for this series specifically